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mindful migrant's avatar

Thank you for this perspective and for sharing Tanmeet's note as well. Couldn't agree more with all of it. As a white woman, I have experienced both oppression (as a woman) and privilege (being white). I am keenly aware of the privilege part, especially since I was privileged enough to be able to move out of the U.S. last March.

My husband I moved to Portugal partly because I saw the writing on the wall while living in Florida and watching our purple state (gerrymandered into red) elect an "anti-woke" fascist (DeSantis). I saw the damage he did to our state in just 2 years and knew if Drumpf got elected, the rest of the U.S. wouldn't be far behind in creating laws that hurt marginalized groups (See Florida's "Don't Say Gay" law, abortion ban, and removal of all school/library books and classes at Universities that are women-focused or involve any POC, DEI, or CRT).

We have 2 kids, both still in college in the U.S. and one big reason we moved to Portugal was to give our 19yo daughter a place she can escape to if she needs to get out of the U.S. quickly (again--privilege). In my most recent Substack post, I talk about this and how I wake up every day and check the news to see, "Is today the day they limit travel for women? Did I wait to long to move her here?"

I was a political activist and volunteer my whole life, and these days it feels like all that energy was for nothing. I so wish I could've done more to make things different for everyone who cannot leave.

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Max Moon's avatar

Hello from afar.

In order to answer your questions/request for feedback, this will necessarily be long.

I’m a US citizen living abroad. I came here in 2015 when I was 70, between the election and inauguration. Not because of Trump but to meet someone I knew only through letters we exchanged. I returned to the US, sold everything, and went back to her. We married there where we’ve lived ever since. I haven’t been back to the US since pre-pandemic and now, because of my health, never will again.

I’ve always followed national and int’l news closely and still do despite the time & distance between here and there. To my increasing detriment. So, how have I coped? Poorly until the last say 2 months when on impulse, I bought a book I’d been curious about since hearing it discussed in glowing terms. Tao Te Ching, John Minford’s translation of Lao-Tzu is supplemented by his commentary and numerous passages and paraphrases from other translators & historic sources. It is rich and dense and slow because invites or even demands concentration and then, contemplation. It leaves me grounded enough to feel safely distant and detached from the catastrophic US and world news I still follow closely.

My experience of leaving the US? Despite a peripatetic work life with several 1-5 week international trips, despite being well educated and informed, culture shock is the best answer for me. In so many ways things little and large are done differently ‘than we’ and seem inconvenient or easier or inefficient or incomprehensible or clever or whatever.

Life is very different in big, important ways too. Oligarchical families and political dynasties control the country. The gov’t is corrupt. Poverty is widespread. Public education is poor even by regional standards which are quite modest. Etc. Such things are a given here, others distinctive and thankfully, globally less common. There are religious zealots of the sort who bomb churches and behead kidnap victims whose families don’t pay enough. Not to mention the rebels interminably at war with the government. Such realities produce profoundly different social circumstances, some quite inconvenient.

But her large,helpful, protective extended family of siblings and their families is here. (We both are childless so enjoy their proximity.) We live with 11 of them and can support all of us with my monthly SSS checks. (Yes, I really worry about that $ with Musk and Trump both armed, dangerous, and on the loose.) The people here are resilient, resourceful, and quick to laugh at misfortune and disaster.

In short, I have learned and gained and grown because of being here. My wife is very different from me and splendid and wonderful. She has taught me a lot. Life is much more difficult but it is a good life nonetheless. It is the best thing I’ve ever done for myself and, honestly, for others. Yes, even now I miss many things about the US, most of all dear old friends, but I have no regrets whatsoever.

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